thanks guys, she is 13 on the 1st of december and is a very old lady!! she is still as sound as she was as a youngster and loves her walks and still loves her food, she has had a severe hair cut as she gets hot and doesnt like spending ages getting groomed so every couple of months we clip her which she doesnt mind and she feels better for it. she is still a happy healthy old girl and long may it continue. i might bring her down to tay valley if it is nice as the judging will be outiside and she can watch the youngsters doing their thing.